As for Madonna ..."I think she’s terrific. When I’m chatting to her, she’s just normal, the opposite of grand. We’ll meet in a restaurant with friends. Or hang out at a party. She’s always interesting and interested. She’s smart as hell and keeps her eyes peeled. She misses nothing."
"Madonna has realised the value of shock. But why not? You need to do anything you can in this business to get noticed. And she's done it brilliantly."
"In a way, I started that with the Sally Bowles look, the cropped black hair, the lashes. It was a look that became important. It went round the world."